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Post by anonymousmd on Feb 27, 2020 9:02:54 GMT
Is it natural having conversations in your mind while you do routine stuff like walking being home alone eating and shit like that or is it just me ... what do normal peaople do when the are alone walking or doing things that dont need that much attention and how much time do they think about stuff cause my mind automatically thinks of random stuff .. Also should we be  when we are alone or doing things or just paying attention to everything without having thoughts or imaginations in our minds.. im feeling very strange and crazy about all that i realy believe i should see a doctor or something because i spend much time and dont get bored easily and dont have the sense of what im doing sometimes .. please help |
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Post by Sam on Feb 27, 2020 19:21:47 GMT
That is pretty normal. People have tens of thousands of thoughts every day. Our brains, especially in the busyness of the 21st century, don't like boredom or being quiet. This is especially noticeable when you start meditating, where you're purposefully sitting in silence and trying to focus on your breath. Thoughts constantly come into your mind, and when they do, we have a habit of following them and letting them take us off course.
My point is that pretty much everyone spends a large portion of the day thinking. And like you said, a lot of the time its completely random stuff. So I wouldn't worry about it.
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Post by anonymousmd on Feb 28, 2020 9:31:26 GMT
That is pretty normal. People have tens of thousands of thoughts every day. Our brains, especially in the busyness of the 21st century, don't like boredom or being quiet. This is especially noticeable when you start meditating, where you're purposefully sitting in silence and trying to focus on your breath. Thoughts constantly come into your mind, and when they do, we have a habit of following them and letting them take us off course. My point is that pretty much everyone spends a large portion of the day . And like you said, a lot of the time its completely random stuff. So I wouldn't worry about it. Yes but i dont see anyone doing this like my friends when they are bored in class they dont think or imagine stuff thay are concentrated at what they are doing even If they dont participate they are concentrated at other stuff like drawing and random stuff that dont use their thought or imagination most people think so much when they are taking a bath not when they are alone or bored However my point is that even if they are bored they still concentrate at their enviroment or what they are doing .. i really feel like i cant stand alone doing something without having thoughts in my head and i overthink most of the time making me anaware of the real feeling of being where i am . Today i am going to ask a neurologist about my thoughts and all of this cause i see anyone else do what i am doing i dont know if he is going to help but however i dont have many choices ... |
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Post by katie on Jun 15, 2020 14:47:00 GMT
That is pretty normal. People have tens of thousands of thoughts every day. Our brains, especially in the busyness of the 21st century, don't like boredom or being quiet. This is especially noticeable when you start meditating, where you're purposefully sitting in silence and trying to focus on your breath. Thoughts constantly come into your mind, and when they do, we have a habit of following them and letting them take us off course. My point is that pretty much everyone spends a large portion of the day thinking. And like you said, a lot of the time its completely random stuff. So I wouldn't worry about it. Yes but i dont see anyone doing this like my friends when they are bored in class they dont think or imagine stuff thay are concentrated at what they are doing even If they dont participate they are concentrated at other stuff like drawing and random stuff that dont use their thought or imagination most people think so much when they are taking a bath not when they are alone or bored However my point is that even if they are bored they still concentrate at their enviroment or what they are doing .. i really feel like i cant stand alone doing something without having thoughts in my head and i overthink most of the time making me anaware of the real feeling of being where i am . Today i am going to ask a neurologist about my thoughts and all of this cause i see anyone else do what i am doing i dont know if he is going to help but however i dont have many choices ... Hi how are you getting on with your neurologist? Having read your thread and reply for us a I am sure its is normal for our mind to be so active between personal aspects and career and issues we may have and then left with daydreaming and so on. My mind is never stopping even when so quiet in doing tasks when it can be when it comes back its in full swing again so it just on mute for me to do things while its still going. Its is not something to be concerned about just to take care of an over active mind may I suggest if its still something that you have figured out with help to do mediation our leaning on any hobbies that relaxes you or even challenging you mind in doing something new so it satisfied and easing it into it if mediation is not work it takes a good bit of time to work doe and is normal in doing so. Mediation is good for many things. Also another thing is relaxation. The brain is always going and can misbehave in ways when we don't want to if we don't take time out for TLC for number one and see how to calm when we know its always going and making us think so much. |
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Post by granger on Jun 24, 2020 12:26:01 GMT
Yes but i dont see anyone doing this like my friends when they are bored in class they dont think or imagine stuff thay are concentrated at what they are doing even If they dont participate they are concentrated at other stuff like drawing and random stuff that dont use their thought or imagination most people think so much when they are taking a bath not when they are alone or bored However my point is that even if they are bored they still concentrate at their enviroment or what they are doing .. i really feel like i cant stand alone doing something without having thoughts in my head and i overthink most of the time making me anaware of the real feeling of being where i am . Today i am going to ask a neurologist about my thoughts and all of this cause i see anyone else do what i am doing i dont know if he is going to help but however i dont have many choices ... I don't know if it's normal but I do it all the time, and I do it since a young age. And I can understand what you are talking about above. Other people seem to be aware of their surroundings but I have to make a conscious effort to notice things. In fact I am so much addicted to the emotional highs and lows that md gives me that everything except md takes a lot of effort. |
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Post by Bluejay on Jun 26, 2020 4:38:51 GMT
Yes but i dont see anyone doing this like my friends when they are bored in class they dont think or imagine stuff thay are concentrated at what they are doing even If they dont participate they are concentrated at other stuff like drawing and random stuff that dont use their thought or imagination most people think so much when they are taking a bath not when they are alone or bored However my point is that even if they are bored they still concentrate at their enviroment or what they are doing .. i really feel like i cant stand alone doing something without having thoughts in my head and i overthink most of the time making me anaware of the real feeling of being where i am . Today i am going to ask a neurologist about my thoughts and all of this cause i see anyone else do what i am doing i dont know if he is going to help but however i dont have many choices ... I don't know if it's normal but I do it all the time, and I do it since a young age. And I can understand what you are talking about above. Other people seem to be aware of their surroundings but I have to make a conscious effort to notice things. In fact I am so much addicted to the emotional highs and lows that md gives me that everything except md takes a lot of effort. Hi, this is just my personal experience, after I read something on this forum itself, I started noticing more of how MD is a coping mechanism. I thought that I was addicted to the emotional highs and lows but infact it was the opposite, this was my way of feeling the emotional highs and lows of real life in a way that was comfortable for me and that is why it always takes less effort to MD than anything else. Now, when I realize mid MD that I have drifted off I take a deep breath and address the emotion directly, I may say "I'm feeling hurt because of what my dad said" and then maybe write in my journal. It doesn't always stop the MD but I feel assessing and acknowledging the feeling helps me be more present. I do think in a way it is a method to spend boredom sometimes, if a task doesn't require a lot of mental "energy" then the rest is used up in MD. I think consciously trying to be occupied by something like exercise or a hobby so that MD is only on in the background and not in the front seat is something you can try. I found timing my tasks (pomodoro technique) quite useful. Timing both productive work as well as my hobbies/recreational times in a way that I won't have extra time in that slot for ex. 25min for 4pages of my book makes me force my focus because there's no way I can do both MD and study. Then I gave 5-10min breaks in between in which I inadvertently end up MDing, so I do MD except it doesn't impede my day. |
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Post by Sam on Jun 26, 2020 17:14:46 GMT
I don't know if it's normal but I do it all the time, and I do it since a young age. And I can understand what you are talking about above. Other people seem to be aware of their surroundings but I have to make a conscious effort to notice things. In fact I am so much addicted to the emotional highs and lows that md gives me that everything except md takes a lot of effort. Hi, this is just my personal experience, after I read something on this forum itself, I started noticing more of how MD is a coping mechanism. I thought that I was addicted to the emotional highs and lows but infact it was the opposite, this was my way of feeling the emotional highs and lows of real life in a way that was comfortable for me and that is why it always takes less effort to MD than anything else. Now, when I realize mid MD that I have drifted off I take a deep breath and address the emotion directly, I may say "I'm feeling hurt because of what my dad said" and then maybe write in my journal. It doesn't always stop the MD but I feel assessing and acknowledging the feeling helps me be more present. I do think in a way it is a method to spend boredom sometimes, if a task doesn't require a lot of mental "energy" then the rest is used up in MD. I think consciously trying to be occupied by something like exercise or a hobby so that MD is only on in the background and not in the front seat is something you can try. I found timing my tasks (pomodoro technique) quite useful. Timing both productive work as well as my hobbies/recreational times in a way that I won't have extra time in that slot for ex. 25min for 4pages of my book makes me force my focus because there's no way I can do both MD and study. Then I gave 5-10min breaks in between in which I inadvertently end up MDing, so I do MD except it doesn't impede my day. All of this is really good. MD is essentially a coping mechanism that's grown out of control. Non-MDers can daydream as a way to cope with things and its a completely healthy thing for them to do. For us, it seems that we started off doing that, but over time it just completely took over and instead of only daydreaming as a coping mechanism when we really do need to escape and recharge (like if we're going through something incredibly stressful), we started daydreaming to escape from anything that's even slightly uncomfortable or unpleasant. Your technique of addressing the underlying emotional cause for your daydream is a very good idea. Over time, it should become easier to address the emotions not only more effectively, but earlier on in the daydreaming process. Timing tasks is also a good idea. It's generally easier to complete tasks without getting too distracted if you say "I'm going to work on this for 30 minutes" instead of "I just need to get [task] done sometime today." And having those breaks is also helpful in controlling the daydreaming because its a break, you can do whatever you want, and you don't have to feel guilty about it because you had a scheduled break. If you want to use that scheduled break to daydream? Awesome. If you want to use the break to eat or to text a friend? Also awesome. |
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Post by Bluejay on Jun 27, 2020 8:19:48 GMT
All of this is really good. MD is essentially a coping mechanism that's grown out of control. Non-MDers can daydream as a way to cope with things and its a completely healthy thing for them to do. For us, it seems that we started off doing that, but over time it just completely took over and instead of only daydreaming as a coping mechanism when we really do need to escape and recharge (like if we're going through something incredibly stressful), we started daydreaming to escape from anything that's even slightly uncomfortable or unpleasant. Your technique of addressing the underlying emotional cause for your daydream is a very good idea. Over time, it should become easier to address the emotions not only more effectively, but earlier on in the daydreaming process. Timing tasks is also a good idea. It's generally easier to complete tasks without getting too distracted if you say "I'm going to work on this for 30 minutes" instead of "I just need to get [task] done sometime today." And having those breaks is also helpful in controlling the daydreaming because its a break, you can do whatever you want, and you don't have to feel guilty about it because you had a scheduled break. If you want to use that scheduled break to daydream? Awesome. If you want to use the break to eat or to text a friend? Also awesome. Yes, exactly. It started out as an innocent and normal imagination, turned into a habit and now into sort of like an addiction. It's very similar to addictive behaviours in my opinion. I think it's also important to be patient with yourself. Assessing emotions is very difficult for someone who's always taken the daydream route to feel. It can be really painful sometimes, but it's important to make yourself do it. I think at least for me, this is the core and if I manage to do this, consciously feel every emotion in it's raw form rather than the sugar-coated daydream way then I'll finally have some control. I generally first have to calm then ask myself- Why are you feeling emotional right now? Is there something that you can do? If yes then I'll force myself to confront it (which is very difficult), if not then- Is this worth my time now? As for timing, again I think it's important to be okay with not doing great right away. Ive tried timing myself many times before but I always got depressed after it didn't lead to major effects immediately and ended up relapsing. I used an app for timing so it rang in specific time slots which also makes you really conscious of how much time is spent, my whole perception of time has changed. I thought I had a rough estimate but boy it turned out to be much worse. |
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when we are alone or doing things or just paying attention to everything without having thoughts or imaginations in our minds.. im feeling very strange and crazy about all that i realy believe i should see a doctor or something because i spend much time 
