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Post by Sam on Oct 1, 2019 18:43:13 GMT
bee and alvi mentioned creating a thread on rejoining the real world, so here it is! A lot of MDers are very isolated, often because of their daydreaming and/or other comorbid conditions like anxiety. Because our daydreams are so much more appealing than real life, it can be quite difficult for us to rejoin the real world, whether that means just spending more time in the present or actually physically leaving our houses more. So, this thread will be a place to talk about tips and strategies for rejoining the real world, as well as a place to talk about progress or setbacks in the process of trying to rejoin the real world.
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Post by katie on Oct 1, 2019 23:14:07 GMT
I think one of my main strategy is to identify what stresses me. As when I am stressed I need to control the situation so I daydream about it and it turn into a full blown story then.
When I know what they are I can problem solve things i.e. meet a friend today for lunch did not go as well and my social anxiety tried to kick in but I didn't let it so I talked it out with her which didn't go down well so I stressed about it but I ended talking to a family member about what happened and it relaxed me.
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Post by alvi on Oct 2, 2019 20:19:18 GMT
I think one of the main things to remember is that it takes a lot of time and effort to reconnect with people especially if you are very socially isolated. Its definitely not an overnight process and its so easy to feel bad when you struggle making social connections and you see others finding it easy, It really is a case of taking baby steps forward.
When I first tried to get out around people more I attended a club where talks are given and at the end of the evening I went home and cried as I felt so out of place and uncomfortable whilst I was there. No one was very welcoming and it was actually very dull. I wasn't going to go again but I forced myself to go as there isn't much else to attend locally. Now there are a few people there that I speak to. Its still not the most interesting thing to attended but its better than not trying and spending all your time alone daydreaming your life away.
There is a lot of trial and error with trying to make friends and find new hobbies but its about putting yourself in the real world more even if it is a struggle and with being consistent with your attempts. There will be some people you click with and some you don't, events you enjoy and ones you hate but its important to try and stay motivated and experiment with new things.
I think for a lot of us being social isn’t really something we naturally are. It’s something that we have to practice and learn.
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Post by katie on Oct 3, 2019 7:25:14 GMT
I think one of the main things to remember is that it takes a lot of time and effort to reconnect with people especially if you are very socially isolated. Its definitely not an overnight process and its so easy to feel bad when you struggle making social connections and you see others finding it easy, It really is a case of taking baby steps forward. When I first tried to get out around people more I attended a club where talks are given and at the end of the evening I went home and cried as I felt so out of place and uncomfortable whilst I was there. No one was very welcoming and it was actually very dull. I wasn't going to go again but I forced myself to go as there isn't much else to attend locally. Now there are a few people there that I speak to. Its still not the most interesting thing to attended but its better than not trying and spending all your time alone daydreaming your life away. There is a lot of trial and error with trying to make friends and find new hobbies but its about putting yourself in the real world more even if it is a struggle and with being consistent with your attempts. There will be some people you click with and some you don't, events you enjoy and ones you hate but its important to try and stay motivated and experiment with new things. I think for a lot of us being social isn’t really something we naturally are. It’s something that we have to practice and learn. Its a viscous circle when you are isolated and want to start interacting with others as we have noting to contribute to in conversation. I think even opening up about something small about our interests and working our way up takes the pressure off. Getting out more and focusing on certain things in our lives that bring meaning to us that we might want to share but that is not our daydreaming of course. Been isolated and not knowing where to start in getting more sociable and if people have social phobias which I have takes a lot out of you but it is a goal that is something to carefully work towards and something that is not impossible to achieve. As I do say my mental illnees are not who I am. Just think about it that way eases the obsession I had with them all.
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Post by bee on Oct 3, 2019 9:23:39 GMT
It's really hard for me to come out of my isolation. Like Sam said, my dream-world is much more appealing, especially when it comes to things like talking to people, being part of a circle of friends. I think as a dreamer it's especially hard, because I have this perfect example in my head, how it should be, how it ought to be. alvi has already put the difficulties much better then I can, so I just add the things I'm doing: 1. Communicate I try very hard to communicate with people. dd is the easiest theme, because I do it a lot. So I read and write here. That's not the "real world", I know, but it's the easiest way for me to be outside my dreams. I try to have small conversations with people, in shops for example. Last week I was at a DIY-Store and I was standing beside a women looking at paintbrushes. I said "I never knew there are so many different brushes.", she said something like "oh yes, hard to choose, isn't it". That's all. I'm ashamed to say it, but that was a huge achievement for me on that day. I try to stay in touch with people, people I know from school or work. There is always the "do you remember..." or "what's xy doing now?" talk in the beginning and most of the times it stops there, but sometimes it develops into a semi-regular contact. 2. Volunteer I volunteer at a small charity. Because I have a "job" to do there I don't have to talk to people much if I don't want to. I don't have to justify(?) my being there, I'm the one who does xy. I think volunteering for a one-off event with more people is something I should try, like a clean-the-park-day. 3. Hobbies with other people Dimmer did a video on that. I'm still looking for one. :-)
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Post by katie on Oct 7, 2019 20:48:02 GMT
I had a stressful day and it was something that would trigger the urge to escape in my other world. Not today doe.
I talk through my feelings and wrote them down in my journal.
I went for plenty of mindful walks
I played chess
I think because I have done all these things to help ease and distract my mind from making other problems for me to solve the urge never came up to daydream today. I taught about it and my characters but the need to do so didn't. Working on a few strategies during the day for what I was feeling resolved what my mind was seeking.
I will end my day like I also do lately with meditation and relaxation sounds.
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Post by katie on Oct 25, 2019 19:34:54 GMT
Over the lat few weeks I have been doing fine with controlling my daydreaming now my life has been getting hard to cope with again and I can't sleep and night because of anxiety. Its like all the emotions we bring into our daydreams are out in the open waiting for me to deal with them and I don't know how to. When I do focus on them I go to one extreme to the next with the way I am feel and have to level my emotions by the only way I know how daydreaming. Hope this makes sense.
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Post by bee on Oct 26, 2019 8:53:21 GMT
Over the lat few weeks I have been doing fine with controlling my daydreaming now my life has been getting hard to cope with again and I can't sleep and night because of anxiety. Its like all the emotions we bring into our daydreams are out in the open waiting for me to deal with them and I don't know how to. When I do focus on them I go to one extreme to the next with the way I am feel and have to level my emotions by the only way I know how daydreaming. Hope this makes sense. Good job you posted this katie, made me revisit this thread again. Like you I'm getting better controlling my dd, mainly by keeping busy. I've done a lot of things this month, walking, visiting places, just "doing" something. It's great, I'm very pleased with that and I hope I can keep this going. I still feel isolated but at least I'm isolated while I'm in the real world and not in my dd. Unlike you my emotions are kind of disappearing. No, not disappearing completely, I feel ok while doing things, even happy sometimes, my curiosity about the real world is even stronger. But all the emotions concerning other people are very weak now. That's really strange because my dd is full of that kind of emotions and now that I don't do dd as much as I used to it feels... I don't even know what it feels like :-)
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Post by katie on Oct 26, 2019 10:28:36 GMT
Over the lat few weeks I have been doing fine with controlling my daydreaming now my life has been getting hard to cope with again and I can't sleep and night because of anxiety. Its like all the emotions we bring into our daydreams are out in the open waiting for me to deal with them and I don't know how to. When I do focus on them I go to one extreme to the next with the way I am feel and have to level my emotions by the only way I know how daydreaming. Hope this makes sense. Good job you posted this katie , made me revisit this thread again. Like you I'm getting better controlling my dd, mainly by keeping busy. I've done a lot of things this month, walking, visiting places, just "doing" something. It's great, I'm very pleased with that and I hope I can keep this going. I still feel isolated but at least I'm isolated while I'm in the real world and not in my dd. Unlike you my emotions are kind of disappearing. No, not disappearing completely, I feel ok while doing things, even happy sometimes, my curiosity about the real world is even stronger. But all the emotions concerning other people are very weak now. That's really strange because my dd is full of that kind of emotions and now that I don't do dd as much as I used to it feels... I don't even know what it feels like :-) I am sure if I wasn't going to my psychotherapist or counselling I would be ignoring my feeling and somewhat numb towards them. Plus I live with my family because I was sick they keep an eye on me so hard not to have no feeling within the house when they annoy you or make you upset. As for now my feelings are on the front of my mind because I am opening up about my trauma which my counselor thinks its I had at least 5 different traumas in my life.
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Post by katie on Oct 29, 2019 11:43:11 GMT
Rejoining the real world is going to be hard this week since I am off work for a week and not much to do but its a challenge for me to work on so far not good. Ha! :/
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