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Post by Magioni Cortello on Dec 26, 2019 0:59:01 GMT
I am pretty glad I found this forum. I've been doing this my entire life, yet I'm one of the seemingly many people who had no idea this was an actual thing until recently. I am currently 21, male, employed, and am single. I can't quite exactly remember when I first noticed that daydreaming was happening consecutively enough to become a regular habit. I think 5th, maybe 6th grade? I totally do it as a coping mechanism as well as to provide myself with a good source of entertainment that costs nothing and can be accessed anywhere at any time. Ideally. But with that in mind, so far it has contributed to my life pretty much turning into a total mess. I don't think here is the best place to get into some of my other problems but things such as severe depression, terrible relationships, difficulty expressing myself, intense and constant anger problems, and other things seem to have been terribly exacerbated by this. I'm not proud to say that I have been taken to some extremely dark places and was driven to do things such as self-medicate with drugs like marijuana and alcohol, self harm, the works. The bitch of it is I really don't like reality. Or people. I feel like almost nobody does, but unfortunately it's quite obvious at this point that I've failed to deal with the situations life has given me properly. Like so many people here have said, MDing is so addictive, so irresistible, because you can almost have everything, everything you ever wanted or wanted to happen right there with you and it's so easy to not realize that your real life is slipping away. I've relied on it WAY too much. Daydreaming(or obsessions as I call them) makes me happy, it really does. To be honest, I really can't imagine being focused entirely on reality and not be absolutely miserable. I recall some of the best times of my life were that way because daydreaming seemed to enhance everything. Like my characters were actually there with me. I don't want to cut it out of my life entirely. I've invested so much time, so much thought, so much emotional attachment, that I don't think I can bring myself to that. Even though I know this habit of mine has pretty much ruined my life and caused me to miss out on so, so much, I don't want to abandon it. Thankfully it seems that I can bring it under control and maybe even use it for more productive/beneficial means if I am capable. If I can't live a decent life with this, though, then that'd be a real pickle. Thus why I have come here. I really hope I can get some real help here as well as provide beneficial contributions to the community. I've tried therapy but it's hard to know what to even say to them. I've never properly opened up about this and it's been difficult to wrap my head around it in the past. I've seen (I think from Sam) that identifying triggers is a huge first step, as well as practicing meditation/mindfulness. Funny enough, I actually started the latter almost exactly a year ago but have run into a roadblock with that. Subject for another thread, probably. Sorry if I'm too wordy and unfocused, I just have quite a bit to say and I have a great deal of difficulty of expressing myself. Thank you guys for reading this! I'm kind of to start interacting with people who seem to know exactly what I've been going through. Merry Christmas!
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Post by Sam on Dec 26, 2019 17:10:58 GMT
Welcome to the forum!
Yes, identifying your triggers is a good first step. Have you been able to do that? What was your roadblock with doing mindfulness? I have a few years of experience with mindfulness, so I might be able to help.
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Post by Magioni Cortello on Dec 26, 2019 19:11:45 GMT
Well I can specifically pin down certain media that I use for my obsessions. I think other works that are fairly similar also have triggering effects. Being bored/inactive certainly is a big one. So is doing mindless/tedious/non-stimulating/repetitive tasks. Funny enough, even reading other users' posts seems to be one. Some are more potent than others. For example, certain media I can consume and I have to make a conscious effort to start daydreaming, some I really can't. It's automatic. Most of them are fairly easy to resist or at least snap out of when I realize I'm drifting.
As for meditation, I'm having a great deal of difficulty focusing when I try to sit down and do it. I can't really seem to follow the instructions anymore without my mind wandering. That and I am starting to kind of hate doing it for whatever reason, like I almost dread meditating and am usually waiting for it to be over so I can get on with my day. I'm staying in a motel room with my mom rn and it is pretty much impossible to meditate unless I leave the room. I hate having eyes on me when I try it.
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Post by Sam on Dec 27, 2019 1:22:16 GMT
Well I can specifically pin down certain media that I use for my obsessions. I think other works that are fairly similar also have triggering effects. Being bored/inactive certainly is a big one. So is doing mindless/tedious/non-stimulating/repetitive tasks. Funny enough, even reading other users' posts seems to be one. Some are more potent than others. For example, certain media I can consume and I have to make a conscious effort to start daydreaming, some I really can't. It's automatic. Most of them are fairly easy to resist or at least snap out of when I realize I'm drifting. As for meditation, I'm having a great deal of difficulty focusing when I try to sit down and do it. I can't really seem to follow the instructions anymore without my mind wandering. That and I am starting to kind of hate doing it for whatever reason, like I almost dread meditating and am usually waiting for it to be over so I can get on with my day. I'm staying in a motel room with my mom rn and it is pretty much impossible to meditate unless I leave the room. I hate having eyes on me when I try it. Your triggers are common enough. Its good that you can sometimes snap yourself out of a daydream when you notice it. As for mindfulness, I have an issue with that too. It can seem frustrating, but your mind wandering while you're practicing isn't you failing the practice. Mindfulness isn't about emptying your mind of all thoughts. That's a pretty common misconception. The point of it is to notice your thoughts, acknowledge them without grasping onto them or pushing them away, and then return to your point of focus (the breath is the usual one). If you're constantly trying to empty your mind completely, you're going to end up with nothing but frustration. With not being alone, you could do a more informal practice. For example, you could mindfully take shower, eat your breakfast, or brush your teeth. Just focusing on exactly what is happening in the present moment, not daydreaming or planning or whatever, and gently bringing yourself back to the present whenever you notice yourself drifting off. That way you can still practice mindfulness without doing a formal sit.
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Post by Magioni Cortello on Dec 27, 2019 14:01:49 GMT
your mind wandering while you're practicing isn't you failing the practice. Mindfulness isn't about emptying your mind of all thoughts. That's a pretty common misconception. The point of it is to notice your thoughts, acknowledge them without grasping onto them or pushing them away, and then return to your point of focus (the breath is the usual one). If you're constantly trying to empty your mind completely, you're going to end up with nothing but frustration. With not being alone, you could do a more informal practice. For example, you could mindfully take shower, eat your breakfast, or brush your teeth. Just focusing on exactly what is happening in the present moment, not daydreaming or planning or whatever, and gently bringing yourself back to the present whenever you notice yourself drifting off. That way you can still practice mindfulness without doing a formal sit. Shoot, I totally forgot about that. I must've let myself fall into the wrong way of . Yeah I think I can give that a go. Thank you.
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Post by Sam on Dec 27, 2019 18:24:45 GMT
your mind wandering while you're practicing isn't you failing the practice. Mindfulness isn't about emptying your mind of all thoughts. That's a pretty common misconception. The point of it is to notice your thoughts, acknowledge them without grasping onto them or pushing them away, and then return to your point of focus (the breath is the usual one). If you're constantly trying to empty your mind completely, you're going to end up with nothing but frustration. With not being alone, you could do a more informal practice. For example, you could mindfully take shower, eat your breakfast, or brush your teeth. Just focusing on exactly what is happening in the present moment, not daydreaming or planning or whatever, and gently bringing yourself back to the present whenever you notice yourself drifting off. That way you can still practice mindfulness without doing a formal sit. Shoot, I totally forgot about that. I must've let myself fall into the wrong way of thinking. Yeah I think I can give that a go. Thank you. No problem! I've been doing mindfulness for years and I still end up falling into the judging thought patterns about how good my practice is.
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Post by alvi on Dec 28, 2019 1:59:51 GMT
Welcome to the forum!
I also really struggle with mindfulness but there is a form called micro mindfulness that works for me. They can literally be a few seconds to a few minutes long so I'm less likely to drift into a daydream.
As for not knowing if you can talk about your bigger issues such as your depression here its fine to post on the forum as long as its fits into the site guidelines and if you feel like its a little bit of a heavy/intense topic just write Trigger warning in the title of your post. We encourage every member to express themselves and look for support here.
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